Guest SuperBru Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 How many bodybuilders can do this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Gibson Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Very few. This particular bodybuilder is probably a former gymnast, and I would think that the only bodybuilders who can perform a planche probably learned the skill as gymnasts before getting involved in bodybuilding. There is also another thread somewhere speculating about whether his large upper body would act as a counterbalance, making the skill easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Naterman Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Look at the arm angle. He has a LOT of counterbalance from the upper body mass. Still awesome (even though it's heavily arched). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parkerson Seward Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Look at the arm angle. He has a LOT of counterbalance from the upper body mass. Still awesome (even though it's heavily arched). It looks like his lower body is still pretty mass heavy.Can you post a picture of what would be the proper arm angle/ form? I'm on F1 so still pretty far away from a planche myself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seiyafan Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 on top of that he is a relatively short guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 I have read an interview somewhere on that due. He has a competition weight of 176lbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SuperBru Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 I did some more research on the guy. He is a Russian bodybuilder 5'4" 176lbs (80kg). His not as heavy as I thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SuperBru Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Another cool pic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Slocum Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 I did some more research on the guy. He is a Russian bodybuilder 5'4" 176lbs (80kg). His not as heavy as I thought. That's still pretty impressive. I'm 2" taller, 6# lighter, and probably have 5-10% more body fat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SuperBru Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 So can you do a planche? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Slocum Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 So can you do a planche? I was referring to his physique; it's impressive. And yes, I can do a planche. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seiyafan Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 I was referring to his physique; it's impressive. And yes, I can do a planche. I was watching your inverted cross video, you are a monster. by the way, are you able to press from inverted cross back to handstand? do you think this is as hard as going from inverted hang to inverted cross? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Slocum Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 I was watching your inverted cross video, you are a monster. by the way, are you able to press from inverted cross back to handstand? do you think this is as hard as going from inverted hang to inverted cross? I'm still working on mastering the hold without assistance. Pressing out comes later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irongymnast Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 What's even more impressive is that he presses himself into it, not leaning into the position as is the normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Naterman Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 It looks like his lower body is still pretty mass heavy.Can you post a picture of what would be the proper arm angle/ form? I'm on F1 so still pretty far away from a planche myselfYou can see what proper planche form is from several people here who can do it, or you could just watch a video of Chen Yibing. There's no "proper arm angle", because this is dependent on where your center of mass is. It will always be inside the base created by your hands, and that will determine the arm angle. You don't need to worry about that right now, but I understand the curiosity I don't recommend spending a huge amount of time on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Slocum Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 You can see what proper planche form is from several people here who can do it, or you could just watch a video of Chen Yibing. There's no "proper arm angle", because this is dependent on where your center of mass is. It will always be inside the base created by your hands, and that will determine the arm angle.It's also dependent on arm-width! The wider your arms, the shallower the angle. Some people do hands at shoulder width, others do arms at shoulder width plus a little more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seiyafan Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 This would be the only time you wish you got short and skinny legs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Naterman Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 It's also dependent on arm-width! The wider your arms, the shallower the angle. Some people do hands at shoulder width, others do arms at shoulder width plus a little more. That's a good point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Naterman Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 This would be the only time you wish you got short and skinny legs. Hahaha, nope I still like being tall with big legs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Li Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 It's also dependent on arm-width! The wider your arms, the shallower the angle. Some people do hands at shoulder width, others do arms at shoulder width plus a little more. Interesting! I thought the angle would be the same, but just that your body will be closer to the floor with a wider placement. It looks like the hands are at the COG (usually by the hips) in a maltese too just like in the planche. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Slocum Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Interesting! I thought the angle would be the same, but just that your body will be closer to the floor with a wider placement. It looks like the hands are at the COG (usually by the hips) in a maltese too just like in the planche.That's precisely why the arm angle decreases: your hands have to stay in line with you COG. The wider your arms get, the less vertical distance there is between your hands and your hips. At the extreme of this, your arms are level, your hands are approximately double shoulder-width, and you're in a maltese position. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parkerson Seward Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 You can see what proper planche form is from several people here who can do it, or you could just watch a video of Chen Yibing. There's no "proper arm angle", because this is dependent on where your center of mass is. It will always be inside the base created by your hands, and that will determine the arm angle. You don't need to worry about that right now, but I understand the curiosity I don't recommend spending a huge amount of time on this.The only time I am spending on it currently is on Monday and Thursday when I do sPL/PE 4. I'm just unfamiliar with a lot of this, hence the question. I'm not going to be trying a planche yet, although being 6'1" doesn't help. I won't be googling Chen Yibing again for a while because his strength makes me sad That's precisely why the arm angle decreases: your hands have to stay in line with you COG. The wider your arms get, the less vertical distance there is between your hands and your hips. At the extreme of this, your arms are level, your hands are approximately double shoulder-width, and you're in a maltese position. Would a maltese be considered more difficult than a planche? I googled that also and it seems to be up for debate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Slocum Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Would a maltese be considered more difficult than a planche? I googled that also and it seems to be up for debateThose who have both seem to concur that the maltese is more difficult to hold. However, enough people have difficulty training the planche that there are many people who can do a maltese and not a planche. In the FIG code of gymnastics points, a maltese is one difficulty category higher than a planche. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irongymnast Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 In the FIG code of gymnastics points, a maltese is one difficulty category higher than a planche. Both are C, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seiyafan Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 maltese is a D, victorian is E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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