Lucas Abner Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Hey guys, Currently I have HS with one finger assistant... But I not know how time I have hold with 1 finger assitant for pass to other progression (Straddle handstand one arm)... see my video, and if have somethink wrong can speak. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zwh7CH0Vw60 thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Naterman Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Man, this one is all Yuri and Handbalancer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikael Kristiansen Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 It is very hard to see the quality of your placement from that angle and when we cant see your entire body. Make a video where you show it both from the back and from the side. Also I would like to see one attempt where you try to remove the finger support to see what kind of reaction/habit your body has when you fall. There are very many technical factors that are important to learn properly if you want an efficient and stable 1 arm. From what I can see on the clip you ara twisting your hips and your left leg wants to fall back towards a 2 arm position. Your right leg also needs to go down so it is more diagonal. It also looks like you are opening your chest too much and losing the elevation in your scapula. You are able to keep more or less all your weight on 1 arm, but if you took your free arm off you would fall quickly. Developing the balance freely on 1 arm takes a very long time. If you post up another video I can try to give you some more specific critique. For now, watch Yuris 1 arm handstand progression video and work with the exercises there to build up more strength and awareness. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuri marmerstein Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Yep, listen to all points made by hand balancer You have your arms a bit wide so it is taking more effort to shift the weight over. You are also going into the whole thing way too fast, try making all the movements slow and deliberate. You need to have complete control over every part of your body. Because you start with your arms wide and you don't carry yourself over when you shift, your head is far away from the hand which will put your body at a bigger sideways lean to compensate. As you shift the weight, the hips need to tilt along with your upper body to keep the weight from going back to the middle when you remove the arm. One more thing: Control your legs! Keep them still You still have a lot of work ahead of you, you need to get very comfortable with shifting weight and holding OAH for a long time with finger support before even thinking about removing the free arm. Check my one arm handstand progression video to give you an idea 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas Abner Posted April 30, 2013 Author Share Posted April 30, 2013 Yes friend, I will see. I made this video in one better angle, so you can see better; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GfsDZp-I3o&feature=youtu.be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikael Kristiansen Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 It is not terrible, but you have a lot of work to do if you want to get it consistent and less dependent on luck. What i will say is only an outline, as going too much into detail would take an entire essay which would be very boring to read. First of all you need to get your legs on more of a diagonal than you currently are. Easiest way of explaining is to focus on letting your right leg go more down towards the floor. Also, as soon as you push up onto your fingertips you let your hip twist. Your legs do not any longer stay in a straddle position and they go into sort of a side split position. It is not too visible but it clearly happens at 00.2. This is very common as it is inttuitively what an untrained body most often does when placed on 1 arm like that. You need to keep your straddle rigid or else the twist will kill your balance the moment you try to remove your free arm. It is very visible from the side. Your left leg wants to travel backwards and this also makes you arch the lower back a bit. You need to be in a more hollow position in general during your straddle handstand before moving over. For now focus on the leg movement technique with the goal of bringing your right leg a little more down without bending too much at the hips resulting in a flag. Stay on fingertips instead of 1 finger so you can concentrate on form. Build good endurance in the position and train both sides. I would recommend you to building up to at least solid 3x30 seconds on fingertip support as your base training and occationally messing around with trying to remove the free arm(which in itself is an entire chapter, but i wont go into that now) Also learn block walking down and up if you have blocks. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldrich Polreich Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 I would recommend you to building up to at least solid 3x30 seconds on fingertip support Will training this with legs together benefit my straddle OAHS? I can't train straddled one in my room on both sides, so i train legs together mainly. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikael Kristiansen Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 Done right, it most definitely does. The problem is that it is way way harder and much more technical. There is a reason that you see a lot of bodyweight training people doing straddle 1 arms, but almost not a single one doing legs together. This goes especially with bboys where a lot of them learn through airbabies, handhops, etc. "Svecha"(russian for candle) the one with legs together, arm up, I dont think I have seen with really good form outside of circus/sports acro. When you straddle you can balance a lot with your shoulder hips and legs in the beginning, or if you are strong and flexible you can lean over to the side into a flagged position to balance more easily. Balancing from anywhere but your palm, and maybe in worst case, micro adjustments from the shoulder, lead to distaster when your legs are together. It is possible to flag with legs together, but you would want ot bend all the way for it to actually help the balance which takes a lot of strength and flexibility not to twist and find a good position. As for wether or not you should train it, I would need to see a video to asses that further. However, in most cases, I would actually say no if you dont know very well what you are doing or have a coach. You would most likely build more bad habits than anything else. There are so many details that dont even make sense until a person has some balance and sensation on 1 arm that it is very hard to explain. As a comparison I would say that legs together 1 arm is around 2-3 years of training time harder than the straddle(if your straddle isnt absolutely terrible) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmcron Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 Just today I re-stumbeld across a post from Yuval, recommending half straddle:https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=296605340441266&set=a.282232185211915.48789.265157370252730&type=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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