andiswf Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 hey! in case anyone is interested: just did my 4th victorian training today after the motivation from ali zahran and his "hint" of how to get into the position with a good tension in my still weekest part in the chain!!!! must train my scapula way more! then the victorian should improve?! my thoughts about exercises for a victorian would need an update watch?v=i71qbS9yh20 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Slocum Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 You're pretty close: that's a very impressive hold. Nice dismount, too My approach would basically be to take standard maltese training, and do it upside down: - victorian leans, focusing on the arm and scapula position- victorians with a spot: have your spotter give sufficient assistance for you to hold good form- victorian board presses (do with a spot or just negatives, if needed)- scapula rows - front-lever rows with one arm straight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piotr Ochocki Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Yes, nice hold, and dismount a'la Danny Rodriguez 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andiswf Posted May 16, 2013 Author Share Posted May 16, 2013 Yes, nice hold, and dismount a'la Danny Rodriguez HAHA, he fell badly in doha 2008! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZRX38 Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Nice Molinari at 0:05 !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andiswf Posted May 16, 2013 Author Share Posted May 16, 2013 Nice Molinari at 0:05 !!thx, only v-cross is 'easy'!kip to v-cross, whats named after molinari, is more challenging 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZRX38 Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 thx, only v-cross is 'easy'!kip to v-cross, whats named after molinari, is more challenging I didnt know that!! V cross is still amazing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andiswf Posted June 3, 2013 Author Share Posted June 3, 2013 ...the correct shoulder-position is Xtremely hard!(I mean NOT the shoulder hands alignement! thats easy for me as seen in the video above) so my new victorian specific exercise for scapular retraction I will focus on for now looks like this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andiswf Posted June 12, 2013 Author Share Posted June 12, 2013 unfortunetly i couldnt train for a week :/(hurt my finger..)I would need to stick more to my special exercise from above!in the 2nd attempt my shoulder was better then before =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andiswf Posted June 22, 2013 Author Share Posted June 22, 2013 my special exercise pays off =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Burnham Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 Good progress! What exercises did you find to be the most helpful? I have a guy in my gym who is looking to start training these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andiswf Posted June 23, 2013 Author Share Posted June 23, 2013 thx!in the first post on the buttom, I have put the link to a video called 'thoughts about getting a victorian' with some preps.my fav exercise for now is the second video that is linked here "movie 860556".however, I sent you a PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blairbob Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Are you trying to hold the maltese or just bounce threw it? Because it looks like you try to do a solid V-cross hold but you would only receive partial credit for both malts. You'll get value but lose execution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andiswf Posted June 24, 2013 Author Share Posted June 24, 2013 thx for the advice!!! to be honest, I did not pay attention to the 2secs rule of the COP!also regarding the Vcross with the COP: it was not good! too high! but for the press into the maltese its easier that way.I was just aiming for the victorian. it was the best i could do for now... i have to practice it a lot more in september/october I will work on fixing the perfect positions of the "non-victorian" holds. with long enough holds and in developing longer and longer sequences, what will build up a complete rings routine(for november) again. I will be bulking a lot then, haha! Last year I went well with that planning. I think beeing the whole year on competative status would be too intense! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andiswf Posted June 29, 2013 Author Share Posted June 29, 2013 scapula exercise pays off, but I still need to focus on that one exercise from today: 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Slocum Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 Getting closer, nice work! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FREDERIC DUPONT Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 Nice catch of your fall there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andiswf Posted July 2, 2013 Author Share Posted July 2, 2013 today only some reps: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Li Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 That's very nice! I can see that your victorians have improved. Are you also locking the arms or bending slightly in the victorian? I know Danny Rodrigues and that other guy bends their arms slightly because it's so hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andiswf Posted July 3, 2013 Author Share Posted July 3, 2013 That's very nice! I can see that your victorians have improved. Are you also locking the arms or bending slightly in the victorian? I know Danny Rodrigues and that other guy bends their arms slightly because it's so hard.Thx!regarding to the bend arms: the inner rotation is massive and holding/pressing the rings towards the body is strong! but what seems to be the key is to add (to all this from above) the right scapula position..for me, thats the weekest part of the chain! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Naterman Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 Hey man, that's a noticeable improvement. Keep it up! Good luck and safe training to you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andiswf Posted July 4, 2013 Author Share Posted July 4, 2013 thx a lot!By now, I learned to be patient! so only 1-2x ring strength/week with enough regeneration and tons of scapula exercises and hours of stretching! btw thx for all the youtube-subscribers. got more in the last day than all the time before 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Naterman Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 thx a lot!By now, I learned to be patient! so only 1-2x ring strength/week with enough regeneration and tons of scapula exercises and hours of stretching! btw thx for all the youtube-subscribers. got more in the last day than all the time before NOW you're on the real path to success Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andiswf Posted July 6, 2013 Author Share Posted July 6, 2013 as some wanted to see the advanced dream machine in action, where you can choose the assisted weigth:some time ago my best limit was 12,5kg help.today I only tried the dream machine at the end of my conditioning...last set was just until I couldnt do any more 7.5kg was technically still "ok". 10kg was easy cheesy!once more I realised, that I need to work on fixing the scapula!so for now, no more victorians for 2-3 weeks! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andiswf Posted July 16, 2013 Author Share Posted July 16, 2013 I just had to try some even on dismount day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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