Bar12 Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 Can I stretch middle split for planche/press to handstand/manna progressions and neglect front split? Or is it mandatory to stretch both? I just don't see any reason to stretch front split. It's useless and waste of time. Am I right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FREDERIC DUPONT Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 (...)I just don't see any reason to stretch front split. It's useless and waste of time. Am I right? If you say so.................. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bar12 Posted June 18, 2013 Author Share Posted June 18, 2013 Looks like it was a stupid question. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cole Dano Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 You don't need full split for straddle press HS either. If you are working specifically for pressing, then working straddle stretches, particularly active, and pike stretches will do. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro Mainente Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 i have to admit that is not a sensible question.the best thing you can do to stretch the back part of your legs is the pike (standing or on the floor). what is knew for the most average of the people is that is impossible do an EFFECTIVE two legs pike stretch (with straight lower back) if you do not have a great flexibility on a single leg stretch for the back of the leg. yes you can do the one leg pike stretch folding one leg to the calve.but another point of the reality is that the most average of the people , i can say the 99.9999% of the people where i teach weightlifting, have the shortest butt muscles is the world. this thing has a negative influence with the ability to make the lower back straight and this can aggravate the situation of the piriformis. so there is an evidence that the average of the people cannot stretch one leg at time in pike position with an effective result. the front split is an easy approach to stretch one leg at time for the posterior part of the leg and is the best solution at the beginning.the idea is always increase the stretch for the single leg when you are very tight, then move to double legs stretch. stretch is not a passive matter, you need energy to relax the muscles so if you have to generate too much energy for double legs stretch, the body can compensate it with another adjustment..this is my pov. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keilani Gutierrez Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 I dont think the front split would be useless. at least as a primary focus, idk where that would fall in, nonetheless, there will be a moment where we should work single leg lifts while actively keeping the leg that is not being compressed as straight and far away as the compressesing leg, as possible. after working on compression, which creates a really power hip flexion, it would be wise to be using hip flexor stretches and leg extensions to max ROM to actively stretch the hip flexors. /2cents 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jl5555 Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 My thought on front split is that it's not a "goal", it's not something that is "worked to" or is "attainable". If you have a reasonably well-thought-out stretching plan that's part of your everyday workout then front split should just be a nice byproduct of your work. My own stretching routine started a few years ago and I certainly didn't have the goal of front split. Part of my sequence includes low lunge and half split, if you think about it the full front split is just a deeper expression of those two stretches. Over time as my body accepted the stretches front split just came along. Relative to my other GB training having the front split helps in a few ways. Forward compression at the hip flexor makes it easier to do L sits, etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blairbob Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 Well, front split stretches hamstring and quad at the same time. AWESOME! That being said, I only stretch half front split and deep knee lunge because front splits hurt and I don't compete them anymore. Recently I saw that Greg Everett of Catalyst Athletics and Weightlifting started training them again, minimally and got pretty much a legit front split back. So maybe I'll try on my off days as I wanted to make that my stretching day anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sailor Venus Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 Can I stretch middle split for planche/press to handstand/manna progressions and neglect front split? Or is it mandatory to stretch both?I just don't see any reason to stretch front split. It's useless and waste of time. Am I right?Front splits are useful for things for splits leaps, front/back walkovers and valdez on the beam and false scissors on the pommel horse. I feel that front splits could help with front handsprings too so you can kick your rear leg over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blairbob Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Yes, splits will help will help the kick of a FHS as well. But I am talking more about the ability to split HS/active split flexibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karl Kallio Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 Observation: If you do work front split, or even lunge and half split, try to make sure that the "bad side" gets equal or more attention. I see a lot of people who only work with their "good side" who end up with weird pelvic posture which in turn seem to affect the back and knees... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keilani Gutierrez Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 Observation: If you do work front split, or even lunge and half split, try to make sure that the "bad side" gets equal or more attention. I see a lot of people who only work with their "good side" who end up with weird pelvic posture which in turn seem to affect the back and knees...-raises hand- I'm one of those with the wierd pelvic posture. took me a while to realize all i needed to do was stretch the tight side, stretch the good side once, then stretch the tight side again. repeat. wish i had known this sooner xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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