Edward Prah Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 It's titled Conditioning for Greater Leg Extension by Mary Virginia Wilmerding.I was searching for anything on strengthening the psoas/hip flexors. I found this doing a search on how ballet folks develop the strength to hold up their legs high in the air.Here is an excerpt:"The second group was taught a five-minute therapeutic exercise and asked to perform it in three sets of ten repetitions, on both legs, three days a week for six weeks. The exercise was a modified leg raise: in a long sit position the dancers leaned back on their hands and the leg to be exercised was turned out and the knee flexed, like a front attitude (see Figure 3). The aim was to engage the quadriceps as little as possible and focus the work on the hip flexors; the dancers were coached to achieve this aim. In six weeks we brought everyone back and re-measured their active and passive ranges of motion. Again, we measured the difference in the two photographs. All the dancers who did the therapeutic exercise saw an increase in their développé à la seconde. The average height increase was 6.5". The dancers that did no extra training showed no change in the six-week period." I have been training this for a week now and I notice I don't engage my huge quadriceps as much anymore when I lift my leg. Look at the average height increase over six weeks according to the article!Here is the PDF to take a better look at it. It includes pictures:http://www.iadms.org/associations/2991/files/info/Bulletin_for_Teachers_1-1_pp5-6_Wilmerding.pdfThe reason I searched for this is to increase my kicking ability.I also notice that my posture is better right after I work on my hip flexors. I must have weak/tight hip flexors. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Douglas Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 Huh. That's a big increase. It's not much to add, I think I'll trial run that too and see how it takes me.Cheers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Douglas Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 Just tried the recommended 3*10; very targeted. Feels almost like a pump in my flexors I can see it being useful supplementary work. I'll stick these in MWF warmup and report back on my middle split hold / straddle L after 4-6 weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Macdonald Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 I'll give this a try as well, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keilani Gutierrez Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 don't get it. so it's like a straddle compression? but with the leg turned out? #confuzzled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Douglas Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 don't get it. so it's like a straddle compression? but with the leg turned out? #confuzzledKnee a little bent, leaning back further, consciously relax quad and lift with the hip flex motion alone. One leg at a time (picture in that article), other with foot on ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briac Roquet Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 This exercise looks like nothing, it must be incredibly painful. I'll add that to my Tuesday/Friday sessions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riku Calderón Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 This is hard but feels good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Macdonald Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 Knee a little bent, leaning back further, consciously relax quad and lift with the hip flex motion alone. One leg at a time (picture in that article), other with foot on ground. Playing with this a little bit, I think externally rotating the leg as much as possible helps deactivate the quads. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kiggundu Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Many thanks for this. I need to increase ROM on MN/PE2. I have a hunch this will help increase ROM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basomis Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 I don't feel anything during this exercise. Am I supposed to lift up my leg slowly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward Prah Posted June 9, 2014 Author Share Posted June 9, 2014 I don't feel anything during this exercise. Am I supposed to lift up my leg slowly?I heard on another site that you should do it slowly. You can try it. Did you take a look at the picture in the article? Look at how her leg is turned out. You knee should be slightly bent and toes pointed. It's a good idea to take a look at what a front attitude looks like and also developpe. I don't feel much doing 10 reps now so I do 40 reps per set to really feel it. I don't know it if it is a good idea to increase volume or not but I feel much better raising my leg now. Btw, I took a two day break and I notice that I don't cramp up in my quads when I raise my leg high. woooo! I think it's working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herrick Fang Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 http://c.ymcdn.com/sites/www.iadms.org/resource/resmgr/imported/info/IADMS_Bulletin_for_Teachers_1-1.pdf On the 7th page, there are more instructions. If it's too easy, you can use elastic bands!There are also some pictures of anterior and posterior pelvic tilt on page 11. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward Prah Posted June 10, 2014 Author Share Posted June 10, 2014 http://c.ymcdn.com/sites/www.iadms.org/resource/resmgr/imported/info/IADMS_Bulletin_for_Teachers_1-1.pdf On the 7th page, there are more instructions. If it's too easy, you can use elastic bands!There are also some pictures of anterior and posterior pelvic tilt on page 11.Great find Haplix! I don't think I've been doing it correctly. I shouldn't be able to get 40 reps this fast if I keep the tension on the hip flexor the whole time. I read those instructions on that pdf that it says go SLOWLY. I kept tension the whole time and it was a lot harder. It says we should see results in 4-6 weeks. Can't wait to see how this affects my kicks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biren Patel Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 This exercise looks like nothing, it must be incredibly painful....You summed up Foundation 1 beautifully. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Douglas Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 I've noticed these help ease my hips into the motion of single- and double-leg extension used in several of the F progressions. No clicking or tightness. So for me it's already paid for itself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward Prah Posted June 11, 2014 Author Share Posted June 11, 2014 I also wanted to share with you guys another exercise that works. It just requires a sturdy chair.From http://www.danceadvantage.net/deb-vogel-developpe/ Here’s a simple and easy way to start strengthening your iliopsoas. Sit on the front part of a chair with your back long and tall, both feet on the ground. You are going to monitor staying on top of your pelvis – don’t let yourself roll to the back side of the pelvis during this exercise. Start by lifting one knee up towards the ceiling, and then lower it just so your toe touches, and lift it again. Can you do 20 repetitions without fatiguing? That would be your first goal, and you’ll be delighted at how quickly you gain strength.Do the same movement on the other leg. If you want to make this more challenging you can tie a theraband around both thighs to provide resistance to the leg that’s lifting. Hopefully this will be the end result of all of this along with all the series on gymnasticbodies.com P.S. just realized that her quads are huge like mine. No excuses now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keilani Gutierrez Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 mother of God. those thighs could strangle a mammoth. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Pettit Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 In my martial arts classes we do a similar hip flexor conditioning drill, usually for time. Stand near a wall so you can use it for balance if need be. Pull your toes back on one foot and then raise the knee as high as you can (the chamber position for a front kick). Lower it back down, trying to only let the heel touch the ground, and then lift right back up. Do this in a slow, controlled rhythm for 30sec. Then hold the knee as high as you can and pulse it, moving up and down only a few inches. If you didn't feel it before you definitely will now. Do that for 30sec and then switch sides. We rarely do multiple sets in class but doing that two or three times would leave a burn. I can fairly comfortably hold a front kick out straight about solar plexus level, a bit higher on my right side and a bit lower on the left. We don't actively train for static-passive flexibility like ballet, but I can see the carry over. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blairbob Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 mother of God. those thighs could strangle a mammoth.Willing to take up that challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Douglas Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 These are just brilliant before hard pancake stretching. I feel like they have really helped me get my toes up in straddle L hold 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keilani Gutierrez Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 still kind of confused on what to do here xD from what i have understood you're sitting, one leg is bent (with foot on floor) the other is bent with feet pointed and leg does compression drills from bent leg to straight leg in different angles? (in front, 45 degrees and as far to 90 degrees as possible) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward Prah Posted July 2, 2014 Author Share Posted July 2, 2014 I think someone else could it explain it better but I'll try.Take a look at this picture from the article: I believe her back is at an angle but straight. I hear when you stand and bring your bent leg up over 90 degrees, your hip flexors take over. You use that same principle but in a sitting position. You slightly bend the straighter leg in a turnout and lift it up(I heard ballet people say to think of lifting up from your hamstrings) to engage your hip flexors. You should feel minimal work from your quads because of the position of your body and legs. I've started to back off of this a little bit and work on glute activation such as glute bridges. I talked to a chiropractor who confirmed that my glutes are not firing. My hip flexors are already tight so I don't want to cause extra issues with this exercise. But I can say that it works because I can lift my leg higher. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Egebak Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Can somebody upload or link to a videoclip of them performing the exercise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmcron Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 There is a video on http://www.joelminden.com/improving-hip-flexibility-in-dancers-three-methods-compared/ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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