Charlie Martin Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 Hi there, Just for context, I currently have a solid straddle planche hold of around 4-5 secs. I have very rarely trained my legs as it seems counterintuitive given that it would only make my planche work harder. However, I've been recently researching the effects of training legs and its benefits in terms of the amount of testosterone released into the body. It would appear that the pure amount of muscle in the legs/glutes can result in huge boosts in testosterone, which I figured would speed up my planche progress. What I'm wondering is: how can I train legs without adding much leg mass? My main fear is that my planche (despite the greater testosterone) will not improve by very much given the extra weight in my legs... What would you guys recommend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Léo Aïtoulha Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 I would recommend you to start the Foundation Series, which will allow you to learn SLS/FLS paired with hamstring mobility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edoardo Roberto Cagnola Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 Sorry for hijacking this thread, but does FLS stands for? I know SLS stands for single leg squat but I don't remember ever seeing FLS in the foundation series, although I should point out that I just own F1 and F2. Did I miss something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Garay Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 Edoardo, FLS stands for Fundamental Leg Strength... nothing fancy. Kuboy, I'm not sure it's that straightforward or simple. That said, you should consider training your legs just for basic human function and athletic performance anyway. If you keep the reps low, quality of movement super high, and focus on single-leg progressions, you probably won't run into any issues with excessive lower-body hypertrophy. If, on the other hand, you want to increase your testosterone for health reasons, then I suggest that you work with a doctor or naturopath that can help guide you through blood tests, lifestyle / nutrition / supplement interventions, and re-tests. Good luck! Best,Chris 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toni Laukkavaara Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 you need huge amounts of testosterone to bring any benefits from it, hence why most test boosters are a "waste" of your money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blairbob Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 It would appear that the pure amount of muscle in the legs/glutes can result in huge boosts in testosterone, which I figured would speed up my planche progress.Not really. Nothing really boosts your hormone levels by a HUGE amount unless you go from Low T to above average/High T by TRT/steroids or balancing out poor sleep, diet, lack of exercise, and hormone irregularities. It's doubtful that your T levels will go from 600 to 900 by adding lower body strength work. Maybe, but I wouldn't count on it. Large muscle movements like squats, leg presses, deadlifts, etc., do result in higher blood levels of anabolic hormones like Testosterone, but these transient and acute increases do not lead to greater overall muscle mass.https://www.t-nation.com/training/does-lifting-boost-testosterone It may be helpful to keep in mind that the hormonal response to exercise is generallycorrelated to the amount of metabolic stress.http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=142335281&p=832700821&viewfull=1#post832700821 What I'm wondering is: how can I train legs without adding much leg mass? Plyometrics, perhaps which would typically be low volume, high intensity. That being said, having a general strength base is generally required before the use of plyometrics. Have to be able to deck squat before roll-up deck jumps, basic squat before squat jumps, releve hold before floor bounding, etc.Even a day of plyometrics per week or a day of short sprints might increase your leg mass if all your legs are used to is walking, general stuff. 634In theory, yes you could boost your hormonal lifts by barbell squats and deadlift once or twice per week. This of course, would probably add mass to not only your lower body but your back. How much is hard to say and might depend on loads used besides current mass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Sørlie Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Take this as an anecdote, but Joe Kinney the first man to ever close a CoC#4, used to squat everyday before breakfast. Heavy and high reps. He used to say that's where he got hos testosterone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Egebak Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Take this as an anecdote, but Joe Kinney the first man to ever close a CoC#4, used to squat everyday before breakfast. Heavy and high reps. He used to say that's where he got hos testosterone.That is somewhat funny. But there is no evidence to his claims. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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