Klaudius Petrulis Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Anything is possible within the realm of imagination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Slocum Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Anything is possible within the realm of imagination. Imagine a color that you've never seen before. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Blazuk Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 First, if you can imagine something, it is by default, possible. Second... that photo of Jaspar is not a photo, it is a real time video stream. He can actually do the close to impossible without any hands. Fact. [You can easily do the CTI in a 747 climbing/descending. This is clearly within the realm of "real physics" and I'm sure, calculable]. OK back to H1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Slocum Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 First, if you can imagine something, it is by default, possible. I can imagine having a velocity faster than the speed of light. This doesn't mean it's possible. It just means that my imagination's constraints are more relaxed than reality's. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Blazuk Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 I think Superman already figured this out. You could hook a left at a wormhole going the speed of light and get to the same place faster than someone traveling there at the speed of light on a direct course. In some ways... you're going faster than the speed of light. And... totally irrelevant to gymnastics! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Slocum Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 I think Superman already figured this out. You could hook a left at a wormhole going the speed of light and get to the same place faster than someone traveling there at the speed of light on a direct course. In some ways... you're going faster than the speed of light. And... totally irrelevant to gymnastics! That's not the same as having a velocity in excess of the speed of light. In any case, the point is that reality doesn't care about what you can imagine, and it doesn't care how positive you think; reality simply is. The fact that you have imagined something is a very poor indicator that it is possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Blazuk Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 But a very good indicator that if it is possible, you will achieve it more easily than someone thinking otherwise. Reality does care how positive you think. I could stab you with a needle and it would hurt. If you paid me money and thought you were getting acupuncture, it might actually feel good. The 'reality' is the same, your perception is different, and your perception is in fact your reality. There's a good reason why upper level athletes pay a lot of money to see sport psychologists. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SuperBru Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 You've got two choices in life. Become a dreamer or become a believer. To anyone who says I wish, your a dreamer. To anyone who says I will, your a believer. This is what separates winners from losers. Make your choice and don't be ignorant about it. All those people saying "ahh I want to become invincible" stop being ignorant. A CTI is more than possible. To those of you who think otherwise it's your choice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Li Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 What I want to know is how difficult are these assisted CTI holds (feet leaning on something) because I seen people do these with whole body recorded to not hide the fact that it's assisted and most make tense facial expressions when doing them or they could be faking the expressions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seiyafan Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 A few years ago I posted here about a calculation I did for the torque generated when holding CTI, and it came to be comparable to the torque generated by a BMW 3-series engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Naterman Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Are you telling me I have to save up for a BMW? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Heiden Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 A few years ago I posted here about a calculation I did for the torque generated when holding CTI, and it came to be comparable to the torque generated by a BMW 3-series engine. This is the post you're talking about. And that's with a 146 pound guy! I'm 178 - I'd need to generate 356 ft. lbs! Them's some strong fingers/wrists! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Slocum Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Torque can be a very misleading figure if compared in that manner. Power output is equal to Torque times angular velocity. In the case of strength holds or presses, the moment is applied about a static, or very slowly moving joint, which means the power output is comparatively low. Whereas in the BMW, the torque is being applied to a shaft spinning at 2K+ RPM. Also note that figure is not unreasonable for other parts of the body. It is, for example, the same torque (to a first order approximation) that the shoulders experience when performing an iron cross. What makes the CTI unreasonable is the size of the muscle groups taking the torque, and the degree to which their leverage is disadvantaged. An iron cross is performed with some of the largest upper-body muscles: the pectoralis and latissimus. In a CTI, the same load has to be supported by the wrist extensors and finger flexors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seiyafan Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Are you telling me I have to save up for a BMW? For your size, probably a M3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seiyafan Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Torque can be a very misleading figure if compared in that manner. Power output is equal to Torque times angular velocity. In the case of strength holds or presses, the moment is applied about a static, or very slowly moving joint, which means the power output is comparatively low. Whereas in the BMW, the torque is being applied to a shaft spinning at 2K+ RPM. Also note that figure is not unreasonable for other parts of the body. It is, for example, the same torque (to a first order approximation) that the shoulders experience when performing an iron cross. What makes the CTI unreasonable is the size of the muscle groups taking the torque, and the degree to which their leverage is disadvantaged. An iron cross is performed with some of the largest upper-body muscles: the pectoralis and latissimus. In a CTI, the same load has to be supported by the wrist extensors and finger flexors. Absolutely, I agree with you entirely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yaad Mohammad Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 I can imagine having a velocity faster than the speed of light. This doesn't mean it's possible. It just means that my imagination's constraints are more relaxed than reality's. Well it is possible, but it's not technically faster than the speed of light. We can't move faster than the speed oflight within space, but space itself can. So we can make some sort of space warper around us, unfortunately, the amount of energy required to make something like that is equal to the mass of Jupiter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Slocum Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Well it is possible, but it's not technically faster than the speed of light. We can't move faster than the speed oflight within space, but space itself can. So we can make some sort of space warper around us, unfortunately, the amount of energy required to make something like that is equal to the mass of Jupiter. There's a reason I used the specific phrase "having a velocity faster than light". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaudius Petrulis Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Imagine a color that you've never seen before. You're mean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 This whole topic sorta reminded me of this video.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYxCrugJj_o 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarun Suri Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Oh my. Not that video again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 I've just noticed how he changed his nickname. Actually it is quite funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teodor Ramon Dahlgren Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 Sorry to continue to pop your bubble, my friends. But the CTI has been, is and will continue to be impossible.Now interestingly there are many other GST elements which are possible; the vast majority of which most of you have not yet mastered. So perhaps your time could be more productively spent addressing those. Or as I am fond of telling my own athletes ... quit yapping and get back to work. Yours in Fitness,Coach SommerHey coach summer, i have also always believed that this move is impossible! but today I stumbled upon this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1wz55XBxO4 which I think seems totally legit, ... getting CONFUSED!! Can this be real?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell Sims Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 Now where have I seen this video before.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefan Hinote Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 Hey coach summer, i have also always believed that this move is impossible! but today I stumbled upon this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1wz55XBxO4 which I think seems totally legit, ... getting CONFUSED!! Can this be real??This has already been discussed at ridiculous length on page four of this topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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