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Essential Oils


Mark Weaver
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I've been using a blend called Deep Blue for sore muscles. It has wintergreen in it, along with camphor, peppermint, blue tansy, german chamomile, helichrysum, and osmanthus.

It's great. My cousin who runs track at a university has been using it as well. You put it on before, during, and after workouts if you want.

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Joshua Naterman

If you follow the workout nutrition that I recommend you pretty much won't get sore. Check my thread in the nutrition area.

Basics are to have protein and glucose from 30-60 minutes pre-workout steadily thru the workout and for at least 2-3 hours after the workout. You don't need enormous doses, 12-15g per hour is normally all your body can process for anabolic purposes due to a limited number of enzymes and transport molecules. However, you can always take more than that around the workout if you want to.

One of the big secrets is to have 10-15g of whey or casein and 4-6g glucose every single hour of the day that you are awake. This keeps you in positive nitrogen balance 100% of the time and keeps you at your biochemical anabolic limit the entire time you're awake. It works, try it. You'll feel different immediately.

My recommendation is to mix 1 gallon of water with 4-5 scoops of protein (for 100-125g of protein) and have 40-50g of glucose in that water with it. Use actual glucose powder if you can, but [preferably short chain] maltodextrin will work too... it will just be chalky. This should be what you sip throughout the day. Eat your food, perhaps adjusting the amount of meat and simple carbs you are eating to accommodate the extra protein and glucose if you wish. This gives you the ideal mix of carbs and protein to support your body's protein turnover as well as basic carb needs, and keeps you anabolic while preventing the vast majority of the protein from going through gluconeogenesis (which normally consumes ~37% of your dietary protein). This allows you to take less protein AND get better results.

This may start to smell funny by the end of the day, which is why I personally make half gallon batches twice a day instead. However, know that the type of denaturation that the whey undergoes does not change its nutritional value AT ALL! Smell will change, taste may change, nutritional value stays exactly the same. Please feel free to search google and read up on that if you wish! Sites that actually have a base in science and chemistry will tell you exactly what I did in this last paragraph.

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Slizz,

I've seen you mention the sipping protein throughout the day tactic a few times now. Would you say this method is mostly for mass gain or general recovery? I also realize it may depend on the type of workouts you do but I'm still curious what goals you have in mind when doing this?

thanks,

alex

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John Sapinoso

^^^ Strange tangent, not sure that's what the OP is interested in.

I've used essential oils before, mostly the thing you've listed and eucalyptus oil too. Helps me to relax a muscle when doing some SMR to get a better release

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Joshua Naterman
Slizz,

I've seen you mention the sipping protein throughout the day tactic a few times now. Would you say this method is mostly for mass gain or general recovery? I also realize it may depend on the type of workouts you do but I'm still curious what goals you have in mind when doing this?

thanks,

alex

All. No matter what your goal is muscularly, you need to maximize protein synthesis to get there. I just do this as efficiently and with as little protein as possible.

Tsoon: I know... not quite OT, but because of what this guy is looking for I figure he should have all the tools available to him.

My understanding is that essential oils can help a bit with a number of things, but I am not well versed in this area.

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Tsoon: I know... not quite OT, but because of what this guy is looking for I figure he should have all the tools available to him.

Not looking for reducing muscle soreness specifically, but just if people have had any experience with essential oils. I've read your thread in the nutrition area. Very helpful, especially for people like me who haven't researched enough into that area of nutrition.

Essential oils have a wide range of use, depending on the oil. Most people are familiar with lavender, peppermint, lemon, and maybe frankincense.

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Aleister Ruffer

My recommendation is to mix 1 gallon of water with 4-5 scoops of protein (for 100-125g of protein) and have 40-50g of glucose in that water with it. Use actual glucose powder if you can, but [preferably short chain] maltodextrin will work too...

Sorry to derail this thread even more, but one quick question:

I'm doing BCAA's before/after wod, bed, and inbeween meals. This would replace that, right?

As for the Essential Oils: A lot of my Asian friends swear by Tiger Balm, but I've never used it personally.

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Sort of. Sliz is trying to replicate the protein bags they have at the hospital where you get a constant protein drip.

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