igalk474 Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 what diet is the best for a healthy person, that doesn't have heart condition or high blood pressure, and is not too fat,and that will suit men and women that wants to train in gymnastics and especially in ring training?what do you think about those diets , which one do you recommed?The Paleo Diet for Athletes: A Nutritional Formula for Peak Athletic PerformanceThe Primal Blueprint: Reprogram your genes for effortless weight loss, vibrant health, and boundless energyWeight watchersDASH Diet (Diet Approches to Stop Hypertension)TLC Diet (Therapeutic Lifestyle Changes)Mediterranean DietJenny Craig DietGlycemic-Index DietAtkins Dietwhat are the best practices when it comes to eating, what are the best habbits?coach sommer, can you tell something about this?like, what diet does your gymnasts follow? why is it this diet?what do they eat before competition?and more stuff like that...thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blairbob Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Robb Wolf, one of the big names of the Paleo discipline is officially a moderator on this board, especially over the nutrition section. He is seldom here anymore but he had a half dozen posts on diet as did Ido Portal if you search for it on the forum. I recently thread a set of articles detailing the author's experience with training in the Chinese Olympic Weightlifting program. Basically they ate 3 big deals a day and laughed at the idea of 5-6 stating who had the time to eat so often and train a lot. I thought that was amusing. I'd guess they probably snack on their down time. Said author said something that many of the gymnasts ate protein and veggies. They also eat a fair amount of rice because it is believed that rice spikes insulin which allows better absorption of proteins and fats, etc. They also eat a fair amount of fruit and the author noted he ate about 500 grams of protein per meal, especially prawns preferably without the shell. Gregor, one of the moderators on here is an Elite Rings Specialist from Slovenia. What he eats like is documented on the board. Here are two posts of his on nutrition:http://www.gymnasticbodies.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=756&hilit=gregor#p3066http://www.gymnasticbodies.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=1366&p=8249&hilit=gregor#p8225 Paleo/Primal is good but don't be afraid of carbs, especially for gymnasts and training. It could be sweet potatoes, rice, or potatoes, etc. Don't eat gluten stuff if you're gluten intolerant (duh). Some people do fine on milk, some don't. And it's not just cow's milk as some cultures drink goat's or sheep's or camel's milk. It isn't just the Northern Europeans who drink cow's milk as some African tribes do as well. Remember as an athlete, you are training to be an athlete; not to live 100 years and be a swami on a mountain. Eat to train and flourish as you're not going to train forever (as a competing athlete). I think I really need to go call up my friend and ask him what they ate in Ukraine when he trained. He was an all arounder, not a specialist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Sapinoso Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 500 grams of protein per mealsounds questionable... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igalk474 Posted February 14, 2012 Author Share Posted February 14, 2012 thanks!!!keep posting if you have more info,in addition to those questions i have more:what do you think about the effectiveness of Omega3 and multivitamins such as OptimumNutrition Opti-Men, and anti oxidants?also about: "you are training to be an athlete; not to live 100 years and be a swami on a mountain."it will be best if i could do both, what i mean by that is that i want peak performance while training, but after 10 or so when i leave the competitions and all, i want to still be healthy, without the sport or diet of it affecting my future health,one thing i heard is that when you quit gymnastics, you shouldn't do it all at once at the same day, you should stop training progressivly over a few months,cutting back on the volume, because the body is got used to certaintension and workload over time, and it doesn't get it anymore, so you could feel a little sick,i heard that happens to some peoplethanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niklas Slotte Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 I personally follow a paleo diet and I try to keep a 30/30/30 ratio each meal with snacking of courseWith the remaining 10 coming from a paleo approved NorCal Margarita, right Bdk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Nowell Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 KISS - meat, vegetables, stay active. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blairbob Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 With the remaining 10 coming from a paleo approved NorCal Margarita, right Bdk? Sounds good to me. Or maybe ice cream. 500 grams of protein per meal Yeah, it sounds a lot. That author probably just likes his meat and protein. I would also wager these guys train a helluva lot harder than most athletes. It is the Chinese Olympic WL program and they are known for their volume. Whether Olympic Weightlifters train harder than Gymnasts is probably a useless argument getting into, IMO. Who bloody knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Sapinoso Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Do you mean 500 grams of meat per meal? I've done that but 500 grams of protein is pretty beastly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blairbob Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Do you mean 500 grams of meat per meal? Yes, I think that is what the author and participant of the Chinese WL program meant. It's only a pound of meat. Very doable, IMO. Basically like eating a big steak. Maybe it's like half a plate of meat. Not sure, but that might be a decent guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igalk474 Posted February 15, 2012 Author Share Posted February 15, 2012 lets focus back on the questions, as i didn't understood any post after my second questionwhat diet is the best for a healthy person, that doesn't have heart condition or high blood pressure, and is not too fat,and that will suit men and women that wants to train in gymnastics and especially in ring training?what do you think about those diets , which one do you recommed?The Paleo Diet for Athletes: A Nutritional Formula for Peak Athletic PerformanceThe Primal Blueprint: Reprogram your genes for effortless weight loss, vibrant health, and boundless energyWeight watchersDASH Diet (Diet Approches to Stop Hypertension)TLC Diet (Therapeutic Lifestyle Changes)Mediterranean DietJenny Craig DietGlycemic-Index DietAtkins Dietwhat are the best practices when it comes to eating, what are the best habbits?what do you think about the effectiveness of Omega3 and multivitamins such as OptimumNutrition Opti-Men, and anti oxidants?right now i'm trying to follow the guidlines in:The Paleo Diet for Athletes: A Nutritional Formula for Peak Athletic PerformanceandThe Primal Blueprint: Reprogram your genes for effortless weight loss, vibrant health, and boundless energythanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blairbob Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Weight watchersDASH Diet (Diet Approches to Stop Hypertension)TLC Diet (Therapeutic Lifestyle Changes)Mediterranean DietJenny Craig DietGlycemic-Index DietAtkins Diet the Meditterean diet and Atkins are decent. However, none of these diets are really designed for athletes in mind. Primal isn't. It's good for a fitness enthusiast. Paleo for athletes maybe acceptable for heavy training athletes. Are we talking about a CrossFitter or someone playing sport at a high level (college football, national soccer, lacrosse, hockey, baseball, basketball, etc. [ No Ultimate Frisbee doesn't count ]). Most of the diets are not formulated for someone training more than 15+ hours a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igalk474 Posted February 15, 2012 Author Share Posted February 15, 2012 it's supposed to be for healthy men and women that wants to train in gymnastics and especially in ring training,not for too professional level, from beginner to semi pro, or fitness enthusiast, crossfittermost will probably train around 2-10 hours a weekcan you elaborate about Paleo for athletes? , it sounds goodprimal isn't too, something like paleo for fitness and training?what's not good with primal?thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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