shiftedShapes Posted October 10, 2008 Author Share Posted October 10, 2008 Whatever... :roll:Come on Joe don't be a sore loser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Sommer Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 Gentlemen,Keep the tone civil please.Yours in Fitness,Coach Sommer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenL Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 wait, you're joe simonsen? from youtube? i'm sltleovyed820 what's up man? i've been asking rick about how to get some videos up on there so i can post mine. keep your vids coming man you're great.by the way, arched is way easier, it decreases leverage. junior had polio, i think his right leg from the knee down is artificial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeSimo Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 Yeah thats me. I didnt realize I was so well known. Small world I suppose. Thanks for the support. I appreciate that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiftedShapes Posted October 10, 2008 Author Share Posted October 10, 2008 by the way, arched is way easier, it decreases leverage. I agree, all else equal, arched is easier, But Junior can planche WITOUHT ARCH and WITH a very OPEN ARM ANGLE. More open arm angle is more difficult. watch around 1:05.junior had polio, i think his right leg from the knee down is artificial.I have also heard that he had polio, but amputation is not a treatment for Polio so this is quite unlikely. More likely he has one leg that is somewhat atropied (though not completely as he can dance upright) and another that is quite strong to compensate, overall probably pretty close to a wash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenL Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 yeah but that's not the video anyone was talking about. the video people were posting about was the one that was originally posted. he was arched in that video. anyway, all arguments aside, the dude's a BEAST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeSimo Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 The fact that his arms have a greater angle means that there is less weight in his legs. Its impossible to open your arm angle without falling over. the only way would be to hold onto something like p-bars. Otherwise the weight shift will affect the balance and you will fall over. So, the fact that Junior does the planche that way means there is less weight in his legs for whatever reason. This in turn means its easier for him to hold a planche position. Roll credits the end... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ido Portal Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 JoeSimo is right.There is a small margine of possible movement forward and backwards in a planche position and the ability to do so is the small force exerted by the wrists and finger pressure. Anyone who does some handbalancing knows how difficult it is to correct movement of the body with the fingers only and no movement of the shoulder. Only a small degree of correction is possible using this tool alone, because of the small forces one can generate using the wrists and fingers alone.Also, Junior's use of fingertip planche further shows that he does not use any additional strength to hold a more open planche, but the placement of his hands on the ground is effected by his center of mass, which is different, due to his handicap. It is important to note that in theory, the ability to move in a planche backwards and though opening up your shoulder angle will most likely have been performed with a reversed hand placement - negating the tendency of the body to fall back by inflicting tension on the floor. Even if it was possible to do so, I assume it would have been performed with a reversed grip and full palms on the floor.Junior does not hold the open shoulder to body angle planche because he has stronger shoulders than the average gymnast, but because his center of mass is placed differently and because he arches his lower back and bends his knees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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