Gregor Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 http://www128.pair.com/r3d4k7/Chinups.htmlCTI is listed there, along with just about all the greatest body weight feats.I still don't belive it was done :oops: .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbryk Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 Until I see a video I'm with you Gregor the force and leverage it is applying to your joints, muscles etc.. is enormous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chauinc Posted December 12, 2008 Author Share Posted December 12, 2008 Well hopefully someone will get it before we die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbryk Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 I'll start today! I wish, life is more than enough for me right now!I'll just rewrite the book of gymnastics and enjoy every moment training! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chauinc Posted December 13, 2008 Author Share Posted December 13, 2008 Well if you ever want to train for the CTI i emailed jim from beast skills a while back asking if he knew anything else about the skill. He emailed me back and said that Jack told him thisHe said that you could do this skill on the ends of some parallel bars. You'd simply put a large portion of your lower and perhaps upper arm along the bars, then let the legs hang. As you shifted away from the bars and got more and more of your arms off the parallel bars, the skill became harder and harder. Make sense? It sounds good in theory, but I haven't had a chance to try it myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeSimo Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 WEll, I feel like an idiot. BUt what does CTI stand for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregor Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 Close to imposible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeSimo Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 Ah that makes sense now thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanyard Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 I`ve seen something similar done by a bboy from New York called Sham God, but he started it from a hollowback and then descends into something like that. Anyway, his shoulder flexibility is something really insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregor Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 I`ve seen something similar done by a bboy from New York called Sham God, but he started it from a hollowback and then descends into something like that. Anyway, his shoulder flexibility is something really insane.The only similar thing it could be is front lever on a bar (you must turn the picture to get CTI ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmcron Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 I`ve seen something similar done by a bboy from New York called Sham God, but he started it from a hollowback and then descends into something like that. Anyway, his shoulder flexibility is something really insane.The only similar thing it could be is front lever on a bar (you must turn the picture to get CTI ).I think he referred to the back lever on ground, not the CTI However, how I understand the back lever on ground you could get into it from manna or something like this, not from hollowback.Anybody here who can do the manna and tried extending the hip, while keeping the hip elevated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chauinc Posted December 14, 2008 Author Share Posted December 14, 2008 Yeah the CTI got mixed into the thread but thats ok. The move your talking about palmcron is a high manna which is what I'd say is the half way point to the move I'm looking for. I didn't see the move until I got Sommer's book. Considering how difficult the high manna is i think the move i'm searching for will be VERY difficult to atain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Launchbury Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 Are you thinking about something like this?...in which case maybe we should call it the A.I. (Actually Impossible) George. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregor Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 You can try this exercise, where the spotter holds your legs and lowers to inverted swallow->triceps exlosion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chauinc Posted December 14, 2008 Author Share Posted December 14, 2008 haha yes the AI would be a perfect name for it. I not even going to try to train for it for another few years hahaha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Sommer Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 A more realistic focus on an element that is somewhat similar to the proposed AI, would be to simply train victorian variations. As maltese work develops the biceps heavily, the triceps strain when working victorians has to be felt to be believed.Yours in Fitness,Coach Sommer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr E Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 I thought of this exact move some years ago, and I still believe it's possible. If someone can victorian on rings, couldn't something very close to this be performed on the floor in straddle maybe? And aren't the arms quite wide apart in a victorian, sorta like an upside down maltese? It should be called an Edwardian!It's nowhere near as hard but I learned to do a sorta v sit on my fingertips and then lean back on my hands and open up into a almost straight position. If you want the impossible you've got to chip away at it piece by piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregor Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 Why is imposible, simply beacuse you don't have muscles to support this hold...Victorian on flor???? Not gonna happen-why? If you look closely the best model for victorian is Danny Rodriguez (french ring specialist) and he is just a litlle above the straight line with the rings. so if you wan't to do it on the flor you must hold it much higher. Keep in mind that he is THE BEST FOR VICTORIANS!!!!Yes victorian is inverted maltese (inverted swallow-victorian, maltese-swallow). Edwardian?????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr E Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 But regardless of how strong you are, the wider apart your arms the less clearance you can get from the ground, so if you tried it in straddle with arms close together and on a stable surface then you've instantly made the move a lot easier and more accessable by comparison. I believe that he's capable of performing it now, with no further training.Edwardian is the period in English history following the Victorian era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregor Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 maybe if you perform it in perfect split I'm confident that inverted planche will never be performed!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
braindx Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 maybe if you perform it in perfect split I'm confident that inverted planche will never be performed!!!!I agree. The anatomy of the shoulder guarantees we're good with stuff in front of us and pushing forward... we're not so great at backwards. There's literally at least thousands of athletes who can do malteses... and only a couple who can do a victorian and even then it's still high and they bend their arms a little. Too hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razz Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 I think its done in this video at 0:49 but as Gregor said in perfect straddle http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S96vkRlHqt4&feature=related Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthew.percussion Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 I think that this skill everyone talking about is basically a manna extended outward. In the video Razz just showed us the person doing the 'AI' straddled looks more like they are doing one of Coaches progressions for the manna.It's just the horizontal middle split hold with the hips pushed way forward.A more appropriate name for this skill might be the 'Long Manna' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregor Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 That is just stradlle V-seat, nothing even close to inverted planche...Look his hips!!!Hips must be in shoulders heights.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razz Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 That is just stradlle V-seat, nothing even close to inverted planche...Look his hips!!!Hips must be in shoulders heights....argh damn guess it really is impossible, should have thought about the hips :oops: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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