Philip Chubb Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 Has anyone tried any preworkout things like beta alanine and creatine before gymnastic based training? Did it make much of a difference for you personally? How about the difference compared to weight training? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emos Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Creatine never did anything for me, in performance, weight or body composition. It's very cheap, though, so worth a try, I would say. EDIT: stimulants might be more useful for performances or PR attempt days. Use sparingly in regular training, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Burnham Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 I used a combination creatine beta alanine powder called podium gold. I noticed some benefit from it but haven't bought it in a while due to a tighter budget. The difference was that I wasnt as fatigued at the end of my workouts and could do more. I have more benefit from green tea before and a small meal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Naterman Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 With WOD-style workouts, the beta-alanine + creatine combo should provide benefits. It will probably also help you with your interval training for the same reasons. For me, so far, the best pre-workout has been water + some carbs + some protein + 8oz of regular-strength coffee. I pretty much mix it all together into a pre-workout latte Maybe that's not the right word, but that's what I'm calling it! Anyhow, I generally only use that when I either have an especially tough workout (not going to be a problem for a while, thanks to shoulder) or when I am just exhausted from studying and need the boost. I would not take caffeine at the same time as creatine, as it does interfere with absorption. A lead time of ~45-60 minutes should do the trick in terms of avoiding the interference. Doesn't really matter which goes first. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Chubb Posted December 11, 2012 Author Share Posted December 11, 2012 Thanks! I am excited to see what will happen here. I will also try the strength latte! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Roseman Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Yeah, I'm amazed the majors haven't come out with coffee flavoured protein with caffiene.I posted a recipe here for it about six months ago in the Josh's favourite recipe thread. Great and not so great minds think alike sometimes I guess. In any event, it's nice with real cocoa too,for a moccachino type drink. Iced in the summer, hot in the winter. That said, I can't say how much it helps but it sure tastes good... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Naterman Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 FiN: Heh, just wait. I'm sure that someone's reading this right now and running off to the mixing plant. Alex: Me too! Hope things go well, and keep up the good work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin de Jesus Ponce Robaldino Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 hey Joshua, and what if i usually workout 30minutes after waking up? as i have read, i'm suppossed to have a pre-workout fueling meal (something like 15-25 gr of very simple ch + 10-15 gr prot) in order to avoid protein breakdown... i wake up at 630 and begin working out lightly from 7-8 amthen i have to rest for a while, and then my workout goes from 830-1000.. at 1000 i begin cooling down and stretchin untill 11 am. i'll be experimenting with a medium banana + 10 grs of whey powder + some coffee before working out. during my workout i'll be having something likw 15-20 gr of ch, and after i'll be having 50-70 gr ch + 20-25 gr whey powder.... any extra idea, or reccomendation ?? Thank you Josh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Naterman Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 I think your best results will probably come from either glucose powder or mashed potatoes. Make SURE they are cold! Cold food absorbs much faster than hot food. Play with the amount of carbs. Start off with 30g, and move on up until you find a point where it just seems to be too much. You'll know where you feel the best pretty quickly. As for the protein, at least 15g. As you get older, you need to get more like a true 25-30g protein. Use only whey protein or soy protein, they are very fast absorbing. I recommend whey heavily over soy. Drink a LOT of water with this, like 1 liter per 60g of total food. 30g CHO + 15g PRO = 3/4 of a liter water. Got it? For all intents and purposes here, 1L = 1 quart. I will recommend that you get this food 10-15 minutes pre-workout. I also recommend the mashed white potatoes over the glucose powder because they're easier to find and are as good, if not better. You may find that 15 minutes is too long to wait. When you feel the energy flowing into you, that's when you go work out. Don't wait an arbitrary time like 60 minutes or 30 minutes or 15 minutes, make sure you pay attention to how YOU feel. It doesn't take long to go hyperglycemic and then crash, and once that happens your workout is not going to be super great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin de Jesus Ponce Robaldino Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 I think your best results will probably come from either glucose powder or mashed potatoes. Make SURE they are cold! Cold food absorbs much faster than hot food. Play with the amount of carbs. Start off with 30g, and move on up until you find a point where it just seems to be too much. You'll know where you feel the best pretty quickly. As for the protein, at least 15g. As you get older, you need to get more like a true 25-30g protein. Use only whey protein or soy protein, they are very fast absorbing. I recommend whey heavily over soy. Drink a LOT of water with this, like 1 liter per 60g of total food. 30g CHO + 15g PRO = 3/4 of a liter water. Got it? For all intents and purposes here, 1L = 1 quart. I will recommend that you get this food 10-15 minutes pre-workout. I also recommend the mashed white potatoes over the glucose powder because they're easier to find and are as good, if not better. You may find that 15 minutes is too long to wait. When you feel the energy flowing into you, that's when you go work out. Don't wait an arbitrary time like 60 minutes or 30 minutes or 15 minutes, make sure you pay attention to how YOU feel. It doesn't take long to go hyperglycemic and then crash, and once that happens your workout is not going to be super great. Yeah Josh, so i'll begin with mashed potatoes.... Very high GI is needed right?So i think they must be overcooked, in order to have the simplest and quickest starchy carbs for fueling, right?thank you again However, how is you shoulder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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