Guest Valentin Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 This is no phenomenon. When there is muscle bulk getting in the way its pretty hard to impossible to do much about it aside from reducing it. Muscle bulk is a flexibility limiting factor simply because of the muscle mass getting in the way. Only real thing you can do (without reducing the mass) is to try to teach them (athletes) to relax the quad on the front leg to hopefully allow for the muscle to be displaced a little allowing for more compression.it is common for the hip flexor to hurt in splits. its a good thing, it means they are maintaining pretty decent alignment in the split and are not cheating it (its an assumption made without actually seeing it, but it seems to me that you know what good alignment is so thus i make this assumption). When you say "pull the leg bent all the way up to their chest " do you mean with their arms or actively without arms. I would recommend that you add in your stretches a Thomas stretch kinda like in the photobut you want to have the bottom of your glut muscle just on the edge of the table, and keep a straight leg. A partner can gently help by putting pressure on the middle of the straight leg thigh, while ensuring that the person getting stretched is keeping the knee into their chest, and both hips are down and they are trying to press their lower back in to the table.The hips rolling at the bottom of squats can also be the result of 1- weak core2- tight Achilles tendons3- tight hamstrings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gittit Shwartz Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 Coach, how often would you have the trainee perform the leg lift routine you described?Many thanks for the info! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Sommer Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 Currently my athletes perform them 1-2 times per week.Yours in Fitness,Coach Sommer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GracefulMonkey Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 ...and when you extend the leg sideways, toes must be pointing up? Thanks.Can anyone answer this please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blairbob Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Aesthetically, flexing the foot is not preferred but when flexing your foot during a split or pike stretch, you do get a better stretch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Griffin Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Actually, I think the question is about pelvic alignment. In order to do a side split, your pelvis needs to tilt forward. This either means your need to tilt forward and arch the back, or rotate the thighs.Here is an article by Thomas Kurz about this very topic. To quote the relevant paragraph:Note that in doing a side split with toes pointing forward you not only spread the legs sideways, but also tilt the pelvis forward. In a side split with the feet pointing up, you keep your pelvis straight but rotate the thighs outward. The alignment of the hips and thighs in both types of the side splits is the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cole Dano Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 I understood the question to be if the toes point up or forward. The Kurtz post should shed some light on that. Keeping the hips neutral i the side extension, the toes will point up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Sommer Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 The position of the toe (flexed or pointed) is irrelevant; however the knee should be pointing to the ceiling during the extension of the leg sideways.Yours in Fitness,Coach Sommer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Schmitter Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 That's super helpful coach, thanks much. I was doing a traditional martial arts sidekick position. Always look forward to practicing things with new found correctness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cole Dano Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 Sorry for adding to any confusion, i should have referred to the direction the knee points, like Coach Sommer did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexis Solis Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 Coach, so whenever I train my sidesplits (passive stretching), my knee has to point to the ceiling? Or only when I do the hip extensions? I find that training sidesplits by myself with the knee pointing to the ceiling is quite uncomfortable and awkward :shock: :cry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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